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Le grand Rabbin de France n’a apparemment pas comprit qu’en France le marriage est un droit civil de tout citoyen.

Posted on December 16, 2012 by Comingout coil

J’ai envoye a mon pere le magnifique discours d’Elisabeth ROUDINESCO http://comingout.co.il/blog/?p=3963 , il m’a repondu par l’horrible discours du grand rabin de France Essai de Gilles Bernheim télécharger au format PDF

Ca fait peur!

En 1905, il y a eu une separation de l’Etat et de la religion en France… Alleluia!

Je suis tres en colere.

Comment peut on ecrire de telles aberrations qui placent une hierachie entre les hommes et une inegalite malsaine?

“Ce qui pose problème dans la loi envisagée, c’est le préjudice qu’elle causerait à l’ensemble de notre société au seul profit d’une infime minorité

tout la commision avec toutes les representations de toutes les religion ici :

http://www.assemblee-nationale.tv/chaines.html?dossier=Commissions&commission=CION_LOIS

a lire:  cet article sur  http://www.dioceseauxarmees.catholique.fr

Mariage homosexuel, homoparentalité et adoption : ce que l’on oublie souvent de dire. Essai de Gilles Bernheim, Grand Rabbin de France

bernheim gillesUn grand nombre de nos concitoyens ne perçoit dans la revendication du mariage homosexuel qu’une étape supplémentaire de la lutte démocratique contre l’injustice et les discriminations, dans la continuité de celle engagée contre le racisme.
C’est finalement au nom de l’égalité, de l’ouverture d’esprit, de la modernité et de la bien-pensance dominante qu’il nous est demandé d’accepter la mise en cause de l’un des fondements de notre société.

Et d’ailleurs, sondages à l’appui, cette mise en cause serait déjà acceptable par une majorité de nos concitoyens et son inscription dans la Loi n’appellerait, de ce fait, aucun débat à la mesure des enjeux.
Le Grand Rabbin de France a souhaité prendre le temps d’analyser, de passer au crible des arguments, de présenter les théories sous-jacentes et surtout d’expliciter les véritables enjeux de la négation de la différence sexuelle dans notre société.
Il a préféré ce temps de l’analyse et du décryptage dans un document auquel chacun pourra se référer, plutôt qu’une intervention succincte, partielle, réduite à l’expression d’un « pour » ou d’un « contre » et pouvant prêter le flanc aux caricatures disqualifiantes, hélas nombreuses sur ces sujets.L’essai peut être téléchargé gratuitement ci-après.
Il est organisé en deux parties :

- Analyse des arguments invoqués par les partisans d’une Loi

  • -    Le mariage homosexuel au nom de l’égalité ?
  • -    Le mariage homosexuel au nom de la protection du conjoint ?
  • -    L’homoparentalité au nom de l’amour ?
  • -    L’homoparentalité au nom de la protection de l’enfant ?
  • -    L’adoption au nom du droit à l’enfant ?
  • -    L’adoption au nom des enfants attendant d’être adoptés ?
  • -    De nouvelles formes d’homoparentalité au nom de l’égalité ?
  • -    La Loi et l’intérêt général à l’épreuve des chiffres.

-    Derrière les arguments, la confrontation de deux visions du monde

  • -    La volonté des militants LGBT de nier la différence sexuelle
  • -    La vision biblique de la complémentarité homme-femme

Un extrait de sa conclusion est reproduit ci-après :
« A l’heure de conclure, il ressort que les arguments invoqués d’égalité, d’amour, de protection ou de droit à l’enfant se démontent et ne peuvent, à eux seuls, justifier une loi.
[…] Il n’y aurait ni courage, ni gloire à voter une loi en usant davantage de slogans que d’arguments et en se conformant à la bien-pensance dominante par crainte d’anathèmes.
[…] Ce qui pose problème dans la loi envisagée, c’est le préjudice qu’elle causerait à l’ensemble de notre société au seul profit d’une infime minorité, une fois que l’on aurait brouillé de façon irréversible trois choses :
-    les généalogies en substituant la parentalité à la paternité et à la maternité,
-    le statut de l’enfant, passant de sujet à celui d’un objet auquel chacun aurait droit,
-    les identités où la sexuation comme donnée naturelle serait dans l’obligation de s’effacer devant l’orientation exprimée par chacun, au nom d’une lutte contre les inégalités, pervertie en éradication des différences.Ces enjeux doivent être clairement posés dans le débat sur le mariage homosexuel et l’homoparentalité. Ils renvoient aux fondamentaux de la société dans laquelle chacun d’entre nous a envie de vivre.
 »

Essai de Gilles Bernheim télécharger au format PDF

English Translation

Gay marriage, gay parenting and adoption: that we often forget to say. Test Gilles Bernheim, Chief Rabbi of France

A large number of our fellow citizens perceive the claim of homosexual marriage an additional step of the democratic struggle against injustice and discrimination, in line with that commitment against racism.
It is ultimately in the name of equality, openness, modernity and the dominant right-thinking we are asked to accept the challenge to one of the foundations of our society.

And besides, surveys supporting this challenge would already be acceptable to a majority of our citizens and its inclusion in the Act does call, thus no debate in the stakes.
Chief Rabbi of France wished to take the time to analyze, sift through arguments, present the underlying theory and especially to explain the real issues of denial of sexual difference in our society.
He preferred this time of analysis and decryption in a document that everyone can see, rather than a response brief, partial, reduced the expression of a “for” or “against” and can itself open to the cartoons disqualifying unfortunately many of these sujets.L test can be downloaded below.
It is organized in two parts:

- Analysis of the arguments put forward by proponents of Act

- Same-sex marriage in the name of equality?
- Same-sex marriage in the name of protecting the spouse?
- Homoparenthood the name of love?
- Homoparenthood in the name of child protection?
- The adoption of the law on behalf of the child?
- The adoption on behalf of children waiting to be adopted?
- New forms of same-sex parenting in the name of equality?
- The Act and the general interest in the test numbers.
- Behind the arguments, the confrontation between two visions of the world

- The willingness of LGBT activists deny sexual difference
- The biblical vision of male-female complementarity
An excerpt from his conclusion is reproduced below:
“At the conclusion, it appears that the arguments of equality, love, protection or right to dismantle the child and can not alone justify a law.
[...] There would be neither courage nor glory to pass a law by using more than slogans and arguments conforming to the dominant right-thinking for fear of curses.
[...] The problem in the proposed law, the harm it would cause to our entire society for the sole benefit of a tiny minority, once they have scrambled irreversibly three things :
- Genealogies substituting parenthood paternity and maternity,
- The status of the child, subject to the passing of an object to which each is entitled,
- Where the gendering identities as natural given would be obliged to give way to the orientation expressed by each in the name of fight against inequality, perverted eradication différences.Ces issues must be clearly established in the debate on gay marriage and gay parenting. They refer to the fundamentals of society in which all of us want to live. ‘

 

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